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Chapter 8 · Douay–Rheims / Challoner

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Chapter 8 · Open to read

From Ecclesiasticus · Douay–Rheims / Challoner (1749–1752)

What does Ecclesiasticus Chapter 8 say, and which statements belong to its speaker?

Atlas of Saints · Chapter summary

Warnings against unequal strife accompany respect for repentant and aged people. Ancestral teaching precedes cautions about rebuke, loans, surety and judges. Travel and confidences retain dangers without invented compulsion or guaranteed safety.

Chapter breakdown

Ecclesiasticus 8 warns against strife with powerful people lest captured, contention with rich people lest sued, and money's destructive and king-corrupting effects. Do not quarrel with the talkative or fuel their fire, or communicate with the ignorant lest family be maligned. Do not despise a person leaving sin, remembering universal need for reproof; respect old age as one's future and avoid joy at an enemy's death because all die and dislike such joy directed at themselves. Learn wise elders' discourse and proverbs for understanding, blameless service and timely answers; they learned from their fathers.

Do not provoke sinners' coals by rebuke or confront injurious people who may entrap speech. Do not lend to someone mightier, and if lending count it lost; do not guarantee above means and, if surety, expect payment. Do not judge against a judge, whom the passage says judges justly. Avoid travel with willful bold people and quarrels with passionate people, or desert travel with someone who disregards blood and may overthrow companions without help. Fools favor their own pleasures; do not deliberate before strangers whose response is unknown or open one's heart to every person lest evil and reproach return. These cautions do not say the loan is forced, silence the sole defense, or cautious conduct certain to preserve a household.

The story inside

Opening: Warnings against unequal strife accompany respect for repentant and aged people. Development: Ancestral teaching precedes cautions about rebuke, loans, surety and judges. Conclusion: Travel and confidences retain dangers without invented compulsion or guaranteed safety.

Lessons worth keeping

  1. 1
    Warnings against unequal strife accompany respect for repentant and aged people.
  2. 2
    Ancestral teaching precedes cautions about rebuke, loans, surety and judges.
  3. 3
    Travel and confidences retain dangers without invented compulsion or guaranteed safety.

Test your recall

Which images and requests does the speaker use, and what does the chapter leave unresolved?

Source edition and notes

Douay–Rheims, revised by Richard Challoner (1749–1752). Project Gutenberg no. 1581. Locators refer to lines in the admitted pg1581.txt edition. Source notes may include Challoner commentary.

  1. Lines 74005–74010

    8:1. Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands. 8:2. Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee. 8:3. For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.
  2. Lines 74018–74019

    8:6. Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.
  3. Lines 74026–74030

    8:9. Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs. 8:10. For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.
  4. Lines 74047–74048

    8:16. Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.
  5. Lines 74057–74059

    8:19. Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.
  6. Lines 74067–74068

    8:22. Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

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