Chapter VIII · Location 8 of 12
Chapter 8 · Open to readFrom Ecclesiastes · Douay–Rheims / Challoner (1749–1752)
Why does delayed punishment make the problem of injustice harder to understand?
Atlas of Saints · Chapter summary
The Preacher sees wicked people praised and just people harmed, yet says that people cannot fully grasp God’s works.
Chapter breakdown
The chapter connects wisdom with conduct before a powerful king. The listener should not leave the king’s presence hastily or persist in evil. A wise heart understands the proper time and response. But people cannot command the spirit, control the day of death, or escape a war at will. Wickedness cannot save the wicked. Sometimes one person rules another to his own harm.
The Preacher has seen wicked people buried after being praised in the city as if they were just. When judgment is slow, people become less afraid to do evil. Even if a sinner commits evil a hundred times and is tolerated, the speaker says it will be well with those who fear God. He wishes that the wicked person’s days would pass like a shadow. Still, he sees just people suffering as if they were wicked, and wicked people living safely as if they were just.
He then commends eating, drinking, and enjoying the days God gives. Challoner records two readings of this passage. Some commentators think the speaker is presenting a reckless person’s objections to providence, which will later be answered. Another reading understands it as praise of a moderate use of earthly goods, instead of anxious attachment to them or proud attempts to uncover God’s hidden ways.
The Preacher studies wisdom and the restless work of people who lose sleep. He concludes that people cannot explain all God’s works. More effort does not guarantee an answer, and even a wise person’s claim to know does not settle the matter.
The story inside
Advice about royal power leads into the puzzle of delayed justice. The chapter ends by placing limits on what human study can explain.
Lessons worth keeping
- 1Delayed judgment can make wrongdoing seem safe.
- 2The speaker still distinguishes fearing God from doing evil.
- 3Challoner gives more than one reading of the call to enjoy life.
Test your recall
What two readings does Challoner give for the praise of eating, drinking, and joy?
Show answer
It may present a reckless person’s objections to providence before their later refutation. Or it may commend a moderate use of earthly goods instead of anxious attachment and proud speculation.
Source edition and notes
Douay–Rheims, revised by Richard Challoner (1749–1752). Project Gutenberg no. 1581. Locators refer to lines in the admitted pg1581.txt edition. Source notes may include Challoner commentary.
Lines 70636–70637
The wisdom of a man shineth in his countenance, and the most mighty will change his face.
Lines 70648–70649
He that keepeth the commandment, shall find no evil. The heart of a wise man understandeth time and answer.
Lines 70657–70659
It is not in man’s power to stop the spirit, neither hath he power in the day of death, neither is he suffered to rest when war is at hand, neither shall wickedness save the wicked.
Lines 70669–70670
For because sentence is not speedily pronounced against the evil, the children of men commit evils without any fear.
Lines 70672–70674
But though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and by patience be borne withal, I know from thence that it shall be well with them that fear God, who dread his face.
Lines 70703–70705
And I understood that man can find no reason of all those works of God that are done under the sun: and the more he shall labour to seek, so much the less shall he find:
